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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: January 12, 2008, 07:46:56 PM »
Complete A/F/U/C update: http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2008/01/2149/
Troubles in a bit! ^_^
Troubles in a bit! ^_^
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General Questions and Discussion / Recent events and policies we'd like to discuss
« on: November 01, 2007, 01:27:16 AM »
Please don't take this as me fanning the flames, but I know I would personally like to have the original posters come back and contribute further to this discussion. I'd like to see if anything that we've said has made a difference or if they do have ideas for improving the areas they highlighted. I'm not exactly sure why you're hesistating to participate?
And I'm really sorry that a few of you have felt scared to comment here. I really hope you all know that Staffers respect your opinions and your ability to come out and say what you really feel. We may disagree on various points, but that should never stop you from expressing your opinions. ^_^
Also, the rule about approvals and the staffer's "final say": You're right, that rule is in place to make sure that the subjects we're approving are actually worthwhile approvals, and it generally has nothing to do with the person applying. In I/L, for example, I've rejected numerous fanlistings that were just small off-hand things (or strange things, like people's groins). I'm not really sure why you would need an extra box on the application, though, when you could just explain it in the main comments box. XD
And I'm really sorry that a few of you have felt scared to comment here. I really hope you all know that Staffers respect your opinions and your ability to come out and say what you really feel. We may disagree on various points, but that should never stop you from expressing your opinions. ^_^
Also, the rule about approvals and the staffer's "final say": You're right, that rule is in place to make sure that the subjects we're approving are actually worthwhile approvals, and it generally has nothing to do with the person applying. In I/L, for example, I've rejected numerous fanlistings that were just small off-hand things (or strange things, like people's groins). I'm not really sure why you would need an extra box on the application, though, when you could just explain it in the main comments box. XD
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General Questions and Discussion / Recent events and policies we'd like to discuss
« on: October 28, 2007, 01:04:08 AM »
I'm sorry, but THIS is a little ridiculous. I'm going to be one of those "mean" staffers here and tell you that I'm disappointed that you couldn't make a stand for yourself and use your real name, because your fear is unfounded and I probably would have respected you all the more. But it's you're right to remain anonymous, and I acknowledge that completely.
Like Rose said, TAFL isn't a democracy. Posts about rules are closed down because they've been discussed TO DEATH. You need to have some kind of standard and authority when it comes to fanlisting networks, trust me. There's no way to make everyone completely happy. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, either. Because are you thinking that we need to start opening up discussion polls for every little rule change? I can tell you from personal experience that we do discuss the rules, and we always try to find compromise that's fair. It needs to be this way, otherwise the entire network would be chaotic. I'm very sorry if this comes across as belittling, but most people have no idea what goes into running a network like this and how much time and effort it takes to keep it going.
One thing that really irks me about this post is that it kinda of rings of self-entitlement to me. From my personal point of view, the limit on the number of fanlistings you can have pending/upcoming is perfectly reasonable because it cuts back on the amount of collectors and it gives others more opportunities to apply for and run the different fanlistings. And I'm sure part of the rule has to do with quality, as well. How good of a job can you do on 10, 20, 30 upcoming fanlistings each month?
1) Staffers step in when they feel like other members of the community are being harassed about getting an approval over someone else. It always hurts to have to reject someone, and that never changes, but we don't tend to take those types of posts as being personal attacks. But when you make snide little comments about others getting the approval and you being "the bigger fan," YOU are undermining the community we have. You can attack us all you want, but you have to remember that first and foremost this is a board to talk about ANIME FANLISTINGS. There are countless other communities that you can join to talk about things that are off-topic.
2) This is hugely offensive to me, not only as a staffer, but also as a human being. I would never "punish" someone like that for speaking their minds, and I can tell you that NO ONE on staff would. If a fanlisting is given to a different owner, it's not because of my personal "vendettas," but because the owner has 1) less fanlistings related to that subject 2) they can code HTML 3) they've demonstrated that they run fanlistings well and have stayed off Troubles and 4) because they have a better application. You completely contradict yourself on this point because you say that we don't update enough and that most of us aren't regulars on the board, and yet we have all the time in the world to trace your IPs and compile a list of people titled "PEOPLE WE SHALL NEVER DARE TO APPROVE AGAIN"? Has this EVER happened to anyone? Do you have any proof that any staffer has ever done this?
There is a double standard when it comes to Staffers. We don't ever win. I could argue with you until I'm blue in the face and it wouldn't make a difference, would it? I hope if nothing else this thread will at least get the point across that Staffers are human beings and that we have feelings, too. We don't run around with sporks trying to make sure everyone is a miserable as they can be. A pretty good portion of the staff is in college or graduate school, and so we try to spend as much time as we can on the boards, but the board and fanlistings can never be our first obligation or concern in our lives. And I certainly hope they're not the primary concern in yours, either.
Like Rose said, TAFL isn't a democracy. Posts about rules are closed down because they've been discussed TO DEATH. You need to have some kind of standard and authority when it comes to fanlisting networks, trust me. There's no way to make everyone completely happy. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, either. Because are you thinking that we need to start opening up discussion polls for every little rule change? I can tell you from personal experience that we do discuss the rules, and we always try to find compromise that's fair. It needs to be this way, otherwise the entire network would be chaotic. I'm very sorry if this comes across as belittling, but most people have no idea what goes into running a network like this and how much time and effort it takes to keep it going.
One thing that really irks me about this post is that it kinda of rings of self-entitlement to me. From my personal point of view, the limit on the number of fanlistings you can have pending/upcoming is perfectly reasonable because it cuts back on the amount of collectors and it gives others more opportunities to apply for and run the different fanlistings. And I'm sure part of the rule has to do with quality, as well. How good of a job can you do on 10, 20, 30 upcoming fanlistings each month?
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The reason why this is an anonymous post is our last argument - bias. Very few of the Staff are also active members of the boards, and the ones who are often punish/scold/warn us about every rule. This type of environment almost puts Staff up in a type of "God" role and makes us feel like if we say one thing that a Staffer could yell at us for, suddenly all of our applications will start getting rejected. This type of fear isn't normal and it is not that way on TFL. Is it too much to ask to have Staffers who will talk to everyone and not make us feel like we're the scum of the earth because we got a little angry about a rejection or ungrateful about something else? The elite feeling of the boards just makes them scary, and if we wanted to be scared, we wouldn't go here in the first place.
We know this seems like a long and unreasonable rant, but if we posted everything one by one, we'd have to keep going back to the public place where we're posting because we're afraid of getting our IPs traced and getting banned/yelled at/rejected for fanlistings and that would be troublesome to say the least. Although the "we" only refers to the people helping write this, we're sure that every other member has to agree with at least one of our points. This is why we'd like to allow other members the chance to post their opinions. The information for this account is:
username: speak_your_mind
password: anonymous
1) Staffers step in when they feel like other members of the community are being harassed about getting an approval over someone else. It always hurts to have to reject someone, and that never changes, but we don't tend to take those types of posts as being personal attacks. But when you make snide little comments about others getting the approval and you being "the bigger fan," YOU are undermining the community we have. You can attack us all you want, but you have to remember that first and foremost this is a board to talk about ANIME FANLISTINGS. There are countless other communities that you can join to talk about things that are off-topic.
2) This is hugely offensive to me, not only as a staffer, but also as a human being. I would never "punish" someone like that for speaking their minds, and I can tell you that NO ONE on staff would. If a fanlisting is given to a different owner, it's not because of my personal "vendettas," but because the owner has 1) less fanlistings related to that subject 2) they can code HTML 3) they've demonstrated that they run fanlistings well and have stayed off Troubles and 4) because they have a better application. You completely contradict yourself on this point because you say that we don't update enough and that most of us aren't regulars on the board, and yet we have all the time in the world to trace your IPs and compile a list of people titled "PEOPLE WE SHALL NEVER DARE TO APPROVE AGAIN"? Has this EVER happened to anyone? Do you have any proof that any staffer has ever done this?
There is a double standard when it comes to Staffers. We don't ever win. I could argue with you until I'm blue in the face and it wouldn't make a difference, would it? I hope if nothing else this thread will at least get the point across that Staffers are human beings and that we have feelings, too. We don't run around with sporks trying to make sure everyone is a miserable as they can be. A pretty good portion of the staff is in college or graduate school, and so we try to spend as much time as we can on the boards, but the board and fanlistings can never be our first obligation or concern in our lives. And I certainly hope they're not the primary concern in yours, either.
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General Questions and Discussion / a new way to sort the fanlistings
« on: May 17, 2007, 01:23:53 AM »
So, this is for people who are too lazy to search through the categories and look under the series titles? :pirate: I think that if this ever were to happen, it would be more of a search engine function rather than actually changing how the categories are organized and presented on the main site (which I think is what you are suggesting, ilona...?). I agree that it would be nice to be able to see all the fanlistings display for a certain series, but I don't think it would make sense to switch from the current category system we have now. So I don' think it would affect the updates log at all. More of a bonus feature than a main feature.
(I may have completely misunderstood what you were getting at, though. I'm a little brain dead... XD)
(I may have completely misunderstood what you were getting at, though. I'm a little brain dead... XD)
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: April 01, 2007, 12:17:02 AM »
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2007/03/1617/
Complete update! If your fanlisting as been listed as "Warned," please read through the email that I've just sent you. If you have any questions, do not hesistate to ask!
Complete update! If your fanlisting as been listed as "Warned," please read through the email that I've just sent you. If you have any questions, do not hesistate to ask!
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: February 24, 2007, 07:24:31 PM »
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2007/02/1539/
Complete category update today. :hug: Please resubmit your form if you don't see it listed here!
Complete category update today. :hug: Please resubmit your form if you don't see it listed here!
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: January 24, 2007, 10:08:58 PM »
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2007/01/1482/
Final Troubles removal posted today. :rolleyes:
Final Troubles removal posted today. :rolleyes:
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: January 15, 2007, 02:31:22 PM »
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2007/01/1446/
Complete update! Please get those troubled fanlistings fixed!
Complete update! Please get those troubled fanlistings fixed!
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: December 28, 2006, 05:38:37 PM »
Complete A/F/U/C update yesterday! :rofl:
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: October 29, 2006, 06:17:57 PM »
A/F/U/C and TLOU update today. A full Troubles update soon to follow!
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2006/10/1331/
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2006/10/1331/
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Items/Locations / Items/Locations - Category Status
« on: September 15, 2006, 10:03:48 PM »
A complete (A/F/U/C/O/T) category update has been posted:
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2006/09/1249/
http://www.animefanlistings.org/updates/2006/09/1249/
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General Questions and Discussion / questions
« on: July 13, 2006, 07:51:47 PM »
I don't know if that would qualify you for troubles, but it seems a little silly and confusing for people who are visiting. Is there a TFL listing for the same relationship? If so, I would just thank the person for the code but explain that your fanlisting pertains to only the manga--just to be safe. 