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General / Question about the yaoi/shoune-ai genre listings

« on: November 08, 2005, 11:24:42 PM »

[quote name='Mitzrael' date='Nov 8 2005, 11:14 PM']agree too, shounen-ai as pointed can be non-sexual or not very explicit relationships.
quoted a defnition I also use a lot , and i think it's mostly correct.

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The wiki definition of shounen-ai there is incorrect, if we looking at the actual Japanese definition of the genre.

I was not wondering whether yaoi and shounen-ai should be seperated as I will quite readily agree that they are two different genres(just not the two genres people seem to think they are), but that the fanlistings being created are for things that are entirely different than what the actual definitions of the terms are.

But as I take it, TAFL's stance on it is to use the Western misconceptions of the terms as that is what fans are more familiar with.

I won't argue it anymore, since it pleases the most people. I'll just hope the owners of the respective fanlistings will state what their fanlistings are for - the Western ideas of yaoi and shounen-ai and help stop the spread of the wrong usage of the words.

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General / Question about the yaoi/shoune-ai genre listings

« on: November 08, 2005, 03:27:10 PM »

[quote name='Mura' date='Nov 8 2005, 03:19 PM']Put another way, technically all yaoi is BL, but all BL is not yaoi, right?

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Mmhmm. Aestheticism has a handy list of the terms and their definintions.

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General / Question about the yaoi/shoune-ai genre listings

« on: November 08, 2005, 02:44:13 PM »

I know this is a bit of an unpopular opinion, but with the recent removal of shounen-ai and the excitement it is has caused... it's been bugging me.

Shounen-ai as a genre refers to a very specific type of manga produced in the late 70s/early 80s that has long been considered dead in Japan. Shounen-ai is not the softcore equivalent of yaoi, which is what the old fanlisting stated it as, and what most of the applicants seem to feel it is. Nor is shounen-ai just the Japanese words for Boy's Love. BL is the all encompassing term for male/male work that includes anything from the G rating to hardcore pornography and is actually refered to in Engrish.

How do you reconcile the wrong usage of the term with the fanlisting?

And this brings up another question that was posed to me and that has been niggling at my brain. Is Boy's Love/BL an approvable genre listing?